哈迪塞镇之战

    对这样的一部电影来说，任何的拍摄手法都显得次要了，重要的是题材和真实性的命题。我是比较讨厌美国这个国家的，但是美国人倒是挺讨人喜欢，虽然我一个都没接触过。伊拉克的问题我也关心不过来，我更关心的是大米是不是真要涨价了。可别人家的问题外人死皮赖脸的非要进去插一脚，换做是谁谁也不会乐意。看了这部电影你会对美国大兵异常反感厌恶甚至产生当人肉炸弹的冲动，拿来作为基地组织的宣传影片还非常不错，可事实真的是这样么？恐怕不是这么简简单单。晚上看奶茶刘若英为某品牌电视打的广告，说“知未明，观未见”，那需要的是怎样的一种高度？豆瓣上居然现在还不到三十人看过这部电影，少见啊。四星。

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Haditha
Battle for Haditha (film)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
Haditha killings

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 65 out of 83 people found the following review useful:
Powerful & Provocative Film, 12 November 2007
8/10
Author: Black Narcissus from Maida Vale, UK

I saw this film at it's London premiere at the Odeon West End as part of the London Film Festival.

I guess Nick Broomfield was getting sick & tired of seeing Michael Moore ripping off his Documentary style so made this his Second feature film in as many years. Like the earlier film, Ghosts (www.imdb.com/title/tt0872202/), the Battle for Haditha is based on fact.

The film tells story of the events of November 19, 2005, when a troop of US Marines exact revenge for an earlier attack which killed one of their number in the Iraqi town of Haditha.

The Film focuses on three different viewpoints, the first of Iraqi insurgents, which in this case isn't some mad Mullah but an old man, who we learn is an ex-Army officer and his son. The second focuses on a Corporal Ruiz, a young Marine who you feel wants to be anywhere but Iraqi and the finally the film focuses on a young Iraqi couple and their extended family.

The film is shot Cinéma-vérité style and at times is very harrowing. But it's to Broomfields credit that he to my mind he doesn't simply demonize the US soldiers. Instead you get to understand how young men put in a situation that you the viewer couldn't understand let alone cope with, could just lose it after a comrade is killed. Likewise, in the films portrayal of the insurgent fighters Broomfield manages to make you think what would you do, if, as in the film, your a professional soldier made jobless by a an Occupying force. How do you feed your family, and wouldn't you feel some resentment to the occupation forces for making you jobless. But it's in the Iraqi families, caught between the US forces and the Insurgents that the film is at it's best. They can't do the right thing for doing wrong. It is they who bear the brunt of either Insurgency retaliation or US Forces heavy-handedness. They who ultimately will and are the losers in Film.

This is a powerful film which deals with all aspects of the problem fair mindedly, but doesn't shy away from the truth. Don't let those who haven't watched the film put you off seeing the best portrayal of the War on Terror to date.

Black Narcissus

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 71 out of 95 people found the following review useful:
Made me cry., 21 March 2008
9/10
Author: bluelionk

Made me cry.

Only issues I noticed are: That the translation of the spoken Arabic is sometimes misleading and has no relation with what they actually said.

Some of the actors' accents are not Iraqi (Palestian, Egyptian, and others...), but most are Iraqis.

It's still a great movie that shows what happens in Iraq, and that war is ugly.

It's one of the rare movies that show the issue from the other side.

The acting is great, so is the scenery (it does look a lot like Iraq).

I say it again, it made me cry, a lot.

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 48 out of 75 people found the following review useful:
If You Liked Bloody Sunday & United 93, 19 September 2007
9/10
Author: Movie-Jay from Toronto, Canada

I just saw this movie at the Toronto Film Festival, and it's going to create much controversy as the weeks pass until this film finally opens. I think those who are against a movie before they even see it are saying something about themselves, not the film. Watch it, and then make up your mind. This movie, like United 93 or Bloody Sunday, is told moment to moment, keeps it's head down and just moves forward without judgment or commentary. The movie isn't aware of the past or future, it only knows what it knows through the characters we follow, some of whom are American soldiers, some are innocent Iraqi families, others are terrorists. This movie does a wise thing by simply showing things from all points of view. I can't wait until it's released because it needs to be talked about.

At the premiere for the film, we learn that many of the actors on the American front are actually soldiers who fought in Iraq. The head of the platoon is especially good, and could go on and have a career as an actor.
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 30 out of 41 people found the following review useful:
A story that needed to be told, 13 August 2008
8/10
Author: insomnia from Australia

It's almost impossible to be totally objective regarding a subject about which one is truly passionate. The war in Iraq is a subject that divides people like no other in recent times. As with any conflict, the war in Iraq has its supporters and its detractors. There is no middle ground. There are no grey areas: everything is just black or white. Either you believe it's a justifiable war, or you don't. This brings me to Nick Broomfield's new film, "The Battle For Haditha". The subject of the film is controversial as it deals with an incident in the city of Haditha, allegedly involving the US Marines. Broomfield uses actors, some of whom are former US Marines and Iraq veterans, as well as Iraqi refugees, to fashion a film that successfully straddles the gap between a regular documentary and a straightforward feature film. The film encompasses three points of view: those of the Marines, the insurgents, and the families who lived near where the roadside bomb detonated. This film is a fictionalised account of what actually happened at Haditha. It shows quite graphically, the horrors of war and what the Americans as well as innocent Iraqis have to go through almost on a daily basis. There are deaths on both sides, but it's Iraqi civilians who are caught in the crossfire and who have to bear the brunt of dealing with men who have been stretched to breaking point. The film in no way condones the actions of either the insurgents or the Marines. It just shows the audience what might have occurred on that fateful day, and it's for those in the audience to make up their own minds as to who was in the right and who was in the wrong. When reading some of the comments posted on the message board for this film, I find it somewhat puzzling that some contributors write that "Battle For Haditha" is anti-American. Just because the US Marines are shown in a less than sympathetic light in this film, does not mean the film is on the side of the insurgents. What the film does demonstrate is how quickly things can get out of hand, in a situation such as that in Haditha. By all means criticize a film on its merits, or lack of them. Please, though, do not label this film as un-American just because it doesn't fit a blinkered view of the way the world is.
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 26 out of 39 people found the following review useful:
better than i expected, 1 April 2008
8/10
Author: SEVEREcritic from Bangladesh

i personally never heard of Mr. Bloomfield, so i had no real intention of watching this film till i saw it mentioned in the message boards for other films. that said, i must say this was the best in the recent slew of Iraq war films (like Redacted, Home of the Brave, etc.) i half expected it to be like Redacted and was pleasantly surprised to find it much better. i think it really brought out the fact that there are multiple sides to a story, and did so without too much bias. being a Muslim myself i must admit that it seemed a little inclined towards Iraqis, with Marines portrayed as undisciplined and emotionless (though one of the protagonists feels guilt and in reality this incident caused an uproar). there are no A-list actors, which in a sense, actually made the movie better because you almost see the actors as the characters themselves (especially since a lot of the dialog is improvised). i think it was well made, and well thought out. better than expected. i wonder what the US reaction would if/when it has a release there? unlike Moore's work (as stated by another user here) neither party is shown as completely innocent or completely evil. i'm not sure if this is exactly how the incident took place, but if it is, then there is certainly some food for thought in this movie.

 看完新片《哈迪塞镇之战》，我很头痛。这部影片真实地再现了美军端掉萨达姆政权后，伊拉克的现状。

 

        前面部分主要是为后面的战争做铺垫的，交待了三方面的场景。一是，美国海军陆战队员一天的大致工作任务；主要是训练，巡逻。二是，伊拉克游击队员，一老一年轻的两名战士，他们买来汽油炸弹，准备起事端。三是，一户普通伊拉克家庭，他们有着勉强幸福的生活。矛盾在炸弹爆炸的那一瞬间激化。在一辆美军汽车路过时，老战士引爆了炸弹，一死两伤。其他美国海军陆战队员奋起战斗，两名伊拉克战士边打边退，迅速撤离现场。愤怒的美军先是枪杀一辆汽车里的四名男士；接着，在得到上级许可后，他们对附近房屋展开血洗，出现了最惨烈的一幕。不管屋里有没有人，不管屋里是大人小孩还是老人，不管屋里是男人还是女人，发疯的美军为了报仇，疯狂扔手雷，疯狂用M16扫射。几间房屋顷刻遍地尸体，燃烧大火，成为废墟......与此同时，美军基地中心对可以人员进行定点清除，凡见几名阿拉伯男子在路上，5秒过后，导弹就会将他们从地球上抹去。另外，狙击手到位，进行杀人游戏。...

 

        刚看时，你可能会对美军感到同情，因为他们年纪轻轻，跑到伊拉克来受罪，他们是战争的受害者。但是，当你看见他们对手无寸铁的伊拉克人民进行屠杀时，你会认为他们是十足的恶棍。最后，因为媒体对事件的曝光，上级为了美国海军的声誉把他们抛弃，他们仍然没有好下场。

 

        伊拉克战士在这场战斗中好发无损，可以说他们取得了一次小小的胜利。但是老战士在看到因为他们的所作所为引起美军对自己同胞的屠戮时，他显得十分痛苦。

 

    伊拉克人民是这次战斗的最大受害者。在事发之初，就有人对他们的命运作了说明：如果告诉美军有人在公路上安置了炸弹，那么伊拉克战士不会让他们活命；如果他们对美军保持缄默，美军会要了他们的命。不管他们是作为还是不作为，结局一样。有脑子转得快的早就弃家逃跑，剩下的居民希望维持现状，换句话说，面对这场博弈，他们保持了沉默，所以成了美军的靶子。

 

    有些台词可能传世。比如，伊拉克老战士说，上帝呀，我的所为给人民带来了灾难。~~那是怎样一种心情哪！本该退伍的他，还说，我参军并不是为萨达姆，我是为国家而战。美军将领为死去的战士祈祷时说：愿主给予美国海军勇气和力量。我倒希望美军不要那么强大，不要那么咄咄逼人。美军战士说：我恨死那些当官的了，他们只会给我们没用的奖章。当你获得奖章时，你可曾想到那是用阿拉伯人民的鲜血换来的。还有技术人员的那句：给我5秒。5秒钟，利用GPS和卫星图像，他们可以肆意清除任何不满意的人员。美军狙击手得到“可以对任何移动的物体做必要的处理”的指示，这意味着，他们可以随意点杀平民。有一处场景就是狙击手射杀一名阿族男子，可恶的是，他们竟然开了几枪，还笑嘻嘻的吹嘘自己的枪法牛逼。

 

    故事情节很简单。它只给我们描绘了伊拉克千千万万类似战斗中的一次，它只是几年来伊拉克状况的一个缩影；足矣，通过它，我们完全可以搞清楚伊拉克现在是怎么回事儿。没有迷宫式的故事结构，没有绚烂的画面，没有超酷的音效，没有大牌；有的只是真实的写实的纪实的事实。

 

    死去的美军战士，他们的家庭从此破灭；没死的美军战士，从20多岁起，整个一生将会在噩梦中度过。他们自认为是处境危险的弱势群体，可当他们在屠杀的过程中，他们可曾有一点人性？生还下来的伊拉克人民，阿拉伯民族，他们有的不是对美军维持社会治安的感激，他们有的只是对美国的仇恨，他们化悲痛为力量，他们怒喊着要为死去的家人报仇。不难想象，美军必定会陷入伊拉克人民自杀性爆炸的包围之中。

 

    获得奖章的美军士兵说我们胜利了，但战争还远远没有结束，谁也说不上谁赢谁输。实际上，伊拉克的矛盾异常复杂，谁也搞不清楚以后会发生什么。美国大兵还说，他厌倦了这一切，他感到“麻木到失去知觉”，我建议他听听LP的numb。

  

    这部电影为爱好和平的观众而作，为善于反思的观众而作，为反战人士而作。追求和平，远离战争，这是当代世界的主题。